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All right. Hi Marissa. Thank you yet again for joining us. I know it’s been two weeks since we last chatted and you’ve been up to local things that drew Barrymore show, adding more dates to normal, only friends. Can you just like, walk me through, walk us through your last two weeks before we get into how this kind of all came to be?
Yeah. The last two weeks has been kind of psycho. I feel like I haven’t sat in one place for more than 10 minutes. Yeah, as you said, I was on the Drew Barrymore show that was a literal dream come true. It was so cool. I just, I can’t wrap my head around the fact that Drew Barrymore since she was star struck by me. I don’t know it was, if you watch the episode, she like sits down. She goes, I’m just so star struck by you. And I was like, I’m sorry, am I on your show or not? And it was just super cool. Like I just yeah, I just couldn’t believe that. Like, I don’t know. I just couldn’t believe I was on the group members. It was so cool. And also their crew surprised me with the audience being people from no more lonely friends. So that was super cool as well. It was just so dope. It was just such a cool, like kind of rally alltogether. It was really awesome. I saw on national television, it was great. But yeah. Otherwise I did, you know, Nashville and Raleigh and where else did I go? Denver, Colorado, Salt Lake City, Utah. Yeah. And we’re just ranking in the cities, I guess. That’s really cool. It’s it’s just very, like, I can’t believe that it’s like happening. Yeah. But so
I feel like the turnout’s kind of been better the same over since like you’ve been hosting these for a few months now, how’s it been during the tour?
Definitely more people have been showing up. Like it depends on the city clearly. Or how many people know about it or whatever, and that city or how well, like I can get it advertised for them. Like if I post in Facebook groups or like whatever some weeks are like off, you know, some weeks are better than others. But yeah, definitely like all the stuff that I’ve been doing and everything has been helping a lot. And I feel like if all the advertising and stuff didn’t actually go like that, then we would have five people at each study. But now we have like a lot, you know what I mean?
Yeah, totally. No, that’s great. Oh, that’s so cool. So obviously you’ve had amazing impact, but before your Tik Tok went viral, that kind of caused all this to happen. Sometimes really lgreat things come out of really shitty things. But pre your Tik Tok, can you just like, give us a rundown of like what COVID life was for you, what life was like before and how you kind of like found yourself to where you are now?
Yeah, last year I was living in LA for the past five years. And one day I woke up in November of last year and I said, I don’t want to be here anymore. And it was sad. I spent a lot of my life there. A lot of my time, there are a lot of my efforts and my career was a lot based there. And I was just like, I don’t want to do this. And it wasn’t like I was giving up on my dreams. It was more, I was giving up on the, like giving up on that’s a poor word, but I was just, I was just moving on with my life and trying to make it something better, but keep going with what I want. And I work in film and TV. So I was like, it’s either Atlanta or New York if I go somewhere like for film and TV.
And so I was like, I’m not living in Atlanta right now. Like, so I was like, let’s do New York. Like I’ve always wanted to live there, like New York cCty, like whatever, like let’s figure it out. And I literally that day that I woke up and said, I don’t want to do this anymore. I sold everything. I owned that day on like my Instagram story, like on freaking Facebook, like whatever. And three days later I was on a one-way flight, like to New York. But before that, I just, I lived in a house with like three guys. This was during COVID life was just, we LA was locked down. We couldn’t do anything. We can go anywhere, you know?
Girl I didn’t know New Girl was based off of you.
You or, you know, like got a few ideas, you know? I know everyone would laugh because when we first moved in, it was like new girl. But no, it was, it was, it was cool. It was, it was a very fun you know I think it was just a very, I feel like I was just comfortable there. And I, I just didn’t really know what was next in LA. Like every day I was kinda just like, what is, why? Like, what’s, you know, like, what am I doing? Like, why am I still here? I was in a relationship with somebody and I was like, yeah, this is just not it for me anymore. We ended up like mutually just ending it, still friends, but yeah, like it was just kinda like like whatever, you know? And so, yeah, after that, I kind of was just like, okay, I need to move on with my life and kind of figure out what’s what’s best for me. What’s next. And since I work in film and TV, I was like, let’s move to New York. And literally the first few months in New York, I did more than I did in five years in LA. And that was how I knew I made the best choice because it was just so it was so right. Like, it was just so perfect.
Can you tell us more about what those things that you’re doing in new Yorker?
Yeah, I, I actually, when I moved to New York, it was blizzard season. It was a, during the frickin pandemic blizzard season, it was very lonely, very tragic, very sad. And so sometimes I would just like walk outside and like, just walk around the city, just like learn. Well, no, one’s here, you know? And no one lived in New York at that time because it was so sad. But I walked outside one day and there was a show filming outside my house, like literally right outside my door. And I walked up to them. I was like, what are you guys filming? And they were like, oh, let’s not look, show. And I was like, never heard of it, but thanks. And I told my friends, my neighbors, I was like, they’re filming this Netflix show. And they’re like, oh my God, what we are like, and I was like, you guys know the show?
And they’re like, it’s my favorite show? Like, okay, whatever. So the next day I actually, I was working at the children’s museum and the next day I go to work and they’re filming outside of my work. And I was like, is this the same show? So I was like, Hey, is this the same show? And they’re like, oh my God. Yeah. We remember you from yesterday, whatever. And I was like, okay, cool. And I was like, this is too much of a sign to just not say anything. So I literally walked up to them. I said, I have six ish, years of experience, like, do you got, are you guys hiring? Like, can I have a job? And they literally said, we just fired someone today. Can you start tomorrow? And I was like
They were falling.
We I’m so confused. And so, yeah, I literally just found a job. I worked on that Netflix show for like a few months. And then from that, like the assistant director gave me another job and another job, and I’ve never had such a job in LA. Like literally I was just using like random, like random, random jobs and stuff to stay afloat. And then I moved to New York and I’m like. And I’m like, yes. So that was a very good feeling to be like in a consistent place where I like, felt like I was doing well. And I, like, I was like having to turn down jobs. And that was like a thing that I was not used to, you know?
That’s awesome. I think, yeah, the stars as onset, they definitely aligned and things just like, they, like, they just got more stable and it was almost like, this was very, very much meant to be.
Yeah. I feel like to an upstate, you probably agree with me on this. It’s like, you’re like early twenties. I feel like there’s a lot of that feeling that you’ve kind of described Marissa, you thought you were going to be someone maybe like be someone in a specific place. And then just like realizing that’s not who you want to be anymore, like where you want to be anymore. And it’s, I feel like those are like hard emotions to go through, but it’s kind of cool to hear your story and be like, okay, like she made it out and she,
Yeah. The thing about that too is when I moved to New York, I didn’t know anyone. I didn’t know anybody. I didn’t know anyone when I was doing nothing. And I moved into a hotel for a few weeks until I found a place. Like I was literally living out of a hotel. It was like the craziest creepiest hotel. And I was like, this is so bad. I really pass it all the time. And I’m like, I will never like, like, no, like never again. And and then, yeah, when I moved in with the roommate that I moved into I like, I was like, wow, this is like like this is a place. And we had a pandemic pricing place. Like we got rent, like pop off. I was like, this is too good to be true. But yeah, it was, yeah, it was too good to be true, but it was, it was a very very like just overall like very easy feeling of like being able to move from LA to New York like that, and just like have, have things come together. But workforce
It’s nice when change is a very rewarding. And I feel like the hardest thing is like making that step, but like, obviously it’s been really rewarding, but also it’s like the energy you’re putting in to making it rewarding for yourself. So obviously everything with like the job, the housing, all that was like going really dandy. And then you have a bottle on Tik TOK for that video, which obviously like not the best thing to stumble upon yourself. And then that spawn into no more lonely friends, but can you just like walk us through the literal day when you saw it? And you’re like, wait, I am that Marissa. And then how that kind of spawned into like, okay, shoot, like let’s make something good out of it.
Yeah. I was sitting at dinner with my friend, Jen and Jen doesn’t have any social media, so she doesn’t know what she was. Jen is one of the most often read people I’ve ever met in my life. So like, and so I’m like good for you. Jen is fricking hilarious, but we’re sitting at dinner and my phone’s like billowing up. I’m getting texts and DMS and instant messages and direct messages on Tik TOK. And like a couple of them, I was like, what is going on? I was like, I’m so confused. And at the time, like I knew people, but not that many people. I was like, this is weird. So I look at my phone and I was like, people from my elementary school are texting me. I was like, why
Reason for that?
And I was all the same link. And I was like, oh my God, someone caught me doing something really awful in public. I’m about to be like needed off the face of the earth. I was like, this is awful. And so I look at the thumbnail because when you like send a link, it sends a thumbnail as well. All it says is if you’re Marissa in NYC and I was like, that’s it I’m done. I am going to jail. I don’t know what I did, but I was like, holy crap, like what is going on? So I panic and I was like, I got to watch this, hang on one second. So we sit there and watch it. And she was like, what is going on? And I was like, I don’t know. But I was out of town that weekend. It was like a whole thing.
All the details were just kind of adding up. So when I was like, okay, let me make a response video when I get home. So we got home from dinner and we made a response video and Jen didn’t know what it was. So I should just walk around in the background, like whatever. And she always laughs to this day, but she’s like, oh my God, I didn’t know. 30, 50 million people would say so. So yeah, so I posted that video and like, when I tell you instantly like instantly it started getting hundreds of thousands of views. And I like had only a little bit of like following on Tik TOK. I know I like posted random thoughts that came to my head type of to, you know what I mean? So it was just like, not that big of a deal there. And and so when it started getting traction like that, I was like, what is going on?
So I commented on the guy’s video and I was like, Hey, at the Denver Rissa please message me back. Like whenever what’s going on. And then he ended up messaging me and we started talking about it. And then we ended up meeting up the next day. And that was when that was when we like sat down and talked about it. And we like made those videos together and stuff. And people were like losing their minds, man. It was crazy and true is so cool. He’s so nice. And he’s like, he’s just like, so like easy to talk to. I feel like he’s very like just a cool dude. And so yeah, we just sat and talked about it while he was on his lunch break at work. And and yeah, after that whole thing, like I was just getting thousands of messages, like so many messages, so many whatever, like on all platforms, Instagram Tik, TOK, the like whatever.
And so I made this Instagram called Marissa’s friend club and I didn’t like, know what I was going to do with it. I was like, maybe it’ll just like, make them do a height page. Like, I don’t know, like whatever. And then yeah, it just popped off from there. And when no more lonely friends came about, it was I was on a sick talk alive and the app talk account came on my line and was like, give us the update. And I was like, what’s going on? Like, wait, why? And they were like, what’s going on? What is this? Like, what do you, what are you trying to do from this? And I went on like this little rant and all I said was all I want is no more lonely friends. And I was like, and everyone was like that.
And so yeah, normally friends came from that and I decided to host that little picnic. I posted a video, like being like, I host a picnic with everyone that like, people want to meet friends. Like, is that what everyone wants? Like, I’m so confused because everyone’s just messaging. Like, let’s be friends, let’s be friends. I know friends in New York. And I was like, I don’t either let’s if we’re going to be friends, like whatever. So I hosted that meet up and like 200 whatever people came and I was like, what is going on? And everyone was like, what is going on? And I was like, oh, and then, yeah, from there I posted a video from that meetup that went viral as well. And then everyone was like, come to my city, come to my city. And I was like, it was very it was just very like, it happened all at once and everyone’s like, what is going on? And I was like, I do not know. So please don’t ask, so let me just say, do I’m doing, but I don’t ask questions, but yeah, exactly. That’s a hundred percent. Yeah. Wow.
I feel like the focus now, Marissa is lot on, you know, the results of no more lonely friends and how great it’s become and you know, like how you took some really situation and turn it into something really great. But like how, tell us more about like, how you were feeling when that actually happened and how you’ve been feeling since I guess like did this newfound fame kind of fix whatever you’re feeling that day?
I think, I think in a general sense, I didn’t really have time to process it. I didn’t really have time to actually think about how I felt about the situation itself. Like I I didn’t really get to, okay. The girls never said anything to me. Right. So like I never really, I never spoke to them. I never came out to like came to them and was like, Hey, like what? You know? And usually I would, but during this, I was like, you know, like, it’s over, it’s done. Like the world is we’re, we’re done with this. And I think the craziest part about all of it was that, you know, a lot of it first, a lot of people thought it was staged. I was like, I think I would put myself in a little bit of a better light if, you know, because people walk up to me on the streets and they’re like, oh my God, you’re the girl with no friends.
I’m like, okay. All right, hold on. And when people don’t realize it’s like all their friends, you guys, like, I don’t like it was so whack. I was like, ma’am please. So I didn’t really have time to grieve or process those, losing those friends, but I think it almost made it better because I was surrounded by people that actually fully put their like blue lives on the table for me. And I would do the same. And those people that I’ve met at these meetups, man, I like have never had such a incredible support backing of like, just like love and friends and like the most incredible people I’ve ever met. And like, I don’t, I really don’t think I would have ever found that if it didn’t not that I wouldn’t ever found that that sounds a little dramatic, but like, I, I’m a very, very loyal person to like my friends and I would literally jump in front of trade for someone.
And like, I never really found that growing up. Like I never really had those people that like, I just like would do the same for me. And so I felt like this whole thing kind of found those people for me of like the people that were desperate to have those like connection of friendships and like life. And since I just like, didn’t really have to deal with it and like kind of just celebrate with better uplifting friendships. That’s when I was like, oh, this is, this is like, wow, like this is my new life. Like this is it. Like, I felt like a new person I’ve just been, I’ve been working on myself as a new person, like in a great way. Like, and a lot of people, you know, don’t get that kind of chance, I guess, to do that. Or like make amends with themselves.
I feel like in, in some ways, I don’t know, it’s hard to explain in the sense of that, but I think that just this whole thing really made me step back and look at myself as a person. And also it gave me a lot of insight on how a lot of other people felt about me. Like a lot of people were coming to me from elementary school, middle school, like people I grew up with and like, I dunno what it was. But like two days ago I was just getting texts after texts from people that I haven’t talked to in like 20 years. And I was like, what is going on? And they were like, I just want to let you know, like, this is perfect for you. Like always growing up, you were so like nice to me in school. And like, you would always be like, and I was like, oh God. But like, it was cool to see like people really be like, this is meant for you. And like, I’m just glad that you’re doing it because it’s helping so many other people. And I’m just like, God, it’s, it’s gotten relationships. I just got like this. Nice. See these girls messaged me and was like, cool. Yeah. It’s just cool. Seeing a lot of people that just needed this, but even if they didn’t need it, they came anyway and they benefited so much from it because they just got outside and met some new people. Dude,
I think just like one, like, this is so cool to have almost be like your job and your, your, one of your passions and like what you’re doing, full-time kind of tie together. But it has this like emotional impact on people. And when link people from your elementary school that people that haven’t seen you in, like ages still remember who you are as a person that just goes to show like that just holds so much like value and virtue. This is so cool. Like, I, I know I just keep saying this is so cool, but like really, like, this is so cool and really rewarding.
I think that I’m sitting here like, oh my God, like, I’m doing a lot, like a lot’s going on. Like, I’m doing a traveling and like doing all this, whatever I like to sit back and I get these messages or I read my DMS and I’m like, okay, fine. We’ll keep going. I love it. Like, you know what? I do love it. I love it so much. And sometimes it does get very overwhelming and a lot for me, but it’s in the end, like when I see these people that are like, I need this so bad. It’s like, okay, what’s one more gonna do, you know, like what? Okay. I can do it. Like, I’m, I’m fine. I’m fine. Like, we can do it. Like let’s do it. And I, and I, and I really do appreciate the people that come out. Even if 25 people come out or if 350 people come out, like, it’s still, like, these people got outside, they’d beat something that they didn’t know that they needed to beat. Or like, even if they had this social anxiety or whatever it was that they, they got outside and they met some people. So
I’m excited for you to firmness. I need new friends.
Oh my God. I’m so excited. I’m so excited.
So we were doing some research, you know, a couple of weeks ago when we first talked to you. No. So, you know, according to the Harvard is that there were 61% of those aged between 18 and 25 who reported high levels of feeling lonely. Which is kinda surprising because I would expect that from like an older age demographic. But they also said that 63% of young people reported experiencing substantial symptoms of anxiety and depression. And so the quote was older teens and young adults may be particularly susceptible because they’re often transitioning from their inherited families to their chosen families, meaning they lack important connections to those who can be critical guardrails against loneliness. So two questions for you on that, the first is like, what are your suggestions for people who are going through this transition? You know, post-grad whatever’s happening in their twenties and trying to find their chosen families.
I think a big thing that I didn’t really get to experience because I dropped out of college. So I didn’t really get to experience those like lifelong friendships of college and, you know, et cetera. So like when you’re moving away, it’s like, well, what are we gonna, we all live in different states, you know? I think that when I found what I was passionate about, I made sure I found other people that were passionate about either the same thing or passionate about what they wanted to be passionate about, which made them be passionate in a relationship and a friendship. And I think that’s a lot of people don’t really put two and two together of like, if someone’s not really passionate about their life or like, just not really like doing what they, like, they’re not having a good time in life, basically. I’m not going to be passionate about anything else in their life as well. And even if it’s, you know, it might be awkward, but even if joining a Facebook group or just getting out to a social club or something like that, that a dinner, or like just like these, these random, when I first moved to New York, you guys, I would walk up to people in the park and be like, Hey, I’m Marissa. I just moved here. Like I have a roof. You want to come look at my room?
Well, it’s my favorite bit. Like, I love saying that I love asking people. It’s like my first question that I asked, what’d you to college? Where’d you
And yeah, I think that was the funniest part of that was that I just like, was so desperate to meet people because I was like, oh my God, I’m literally living here by myself in this pandemic. And I’m like, oh my God, what am I doing? And I just like met people and like, you know what, I downloaded Tinder. I bounded Bumble and all of the bios where I don’t want to date you don’t be creepy. I just want to be friends. And the people that were like, cool, like my first ever friends in New York are these are these four guys and they’re still my ride or dies today. I love them so much. And, but I met them off of fumble and I put like, Hey, like I’m just looking for friends or whatever. And they responded was like, Hey, what are you doing for Thanksgiving?
And I was like, I’m alone. And they were like, come to our Thanksgiving party. Like, let’s just hang out, like whatever. And I went over and then met all of them and like, yada yada. And it’s like super weird because I just, like, I’ve been in that position where I’m like, I don’t even know what to do when I first moved to LA, I lived in my car for two months and like, didn’t really talk to anyone. Cause I was like, I don’t want to tell people like what, like, no, like this is weird. So I would just like go to these different random meetups or whatever, and then just be like, oh yeah, like I’m commuting or whatever, like out, I don’t know. I would just like make something up, but it was just, I think what basically I’m trying to say is that I think that a lot of people need to just like put their egos aside, step outside, walk up to people or just like, not even walk up to people, just meet like people in the same, like likes that they had go on hiking groups, go on whatever and, and really just put themselves out there.
And it’s really hard now because of pandemic. Lot of people don’t want to like interaction, but it’s getting a little bit better. And also a lot of people are getting out there and kind of putting themselves out there because they know now that, oh, I need to get out there now and not be sad anymore by myself. Cool. But yeah, I, I so ranted about that. Like, yeah,
I definitely lost all my social skills in the last two years. Like someone just asked me to like, go play golf with them and their friends. And I was like, I don’t know how to meet new people.
I was like top golf. I play, I can’t do any.
What do you suggest for people who were like, you know, obviously everyone’s going through a tough time right now, but like what do you suggest for friends or for people to like show up for their friends? During these times
I think that everyone obviously is going through their own thing, but what I really want people to kind of put together is that if you’re going through a good time and uptime and you know that other people are not, it’s not your, you know, liver dying duty. But if I have one of my friends that I know is isolating themselves, or hasn’t talked to me in a while, even if it’s sending them a video, like I like being like, Hey, like just, just saying what’s up. Like, what’s good. Like seeing their facing your face. Like I, you know, I know I’d put a smile on my face. I isolate myself. And then my best friend is scooter. He’ll call me and FaceTime me and be like, okay, you know, and I’ll be like. You know? So I think it’s I think it’s one of those things that showing up in a sense of physically or mentally, like for them, like just kind of putting their, putting their face, like putting a, sorry.
I’m my ADHD is screaming right now. Putting a name to the face of like showing up for your friends in a sense of like always checking in or just sending them a message or being, being an outsider, look on their actual life. So like when I’m isolating myself, I’m like, I’m not isolating myself. I just need alone time. And they’re like, no, dude, it’s been five days you haven’t gone outside. And I’m like, oh, you’re correct. Like, oh, cool, cool. But I think that being there for somebody when it comes to just fit, like physically being there, it doesn’t have to be you being in person right next to them. But also if I’m seeing that my friends doing something like that, and then I’m like, Hey, do you just want me to like, come over and sit? We can watch TV. That’s like one of my like, love languages is that when people are like, Hey, can we just like sit because I don’t want to talk about it. I just want to like, sit and like be in someone’s presence and not be alone. And I think that’s a huge thing that people kind of forget. But also kind of just like letting people know that you’re still there for them. And that like, even though they’re going through it, like being like, Hey, I’m here just in case. But yeah.
I think those are great tips because I think like people want, they don’t want to feel like a burden, but it’s also like, you don’t have to do like a grand gesture to like be there for your friends. Like what you said, just like checking in a nice, hello, like go such a long way. Especially once you kind of figure out your friend’s love languages and stuff. Yeah. On that note, just to kind of wrap it up with everything that we’ve chatted about from advice, your story, where do you see the movement of no more lonely friends in the next five years?
I really want to do like an annual like an annual festival. I already have one in the works for later this year. So yeah, I’m very excited about it. Yes. yeah. And it’ll be in December, we still have to figure out details and stuff. I’m like for sure, for sure. Like make it, make it real. But I kind of want to do like a festival of like people just like meeting people and being able to have that open ended. Like people come to know like what it is and like blah, blah, blah. I’m like meet people and have fun and just have a good time and get outside and, and stuff and have a, have a weekend away, I guess. I think that in a general sense, I really just want to figure out how I can make this a long-term thing without me traveling to states per weekend for the rest of my life.
You know what I mean? But I think that also there are so many places I could go for, you know, the next few years or whatever, even if it’s once a month or twice a month or whatever it is. I think that sustainability wise I think there’s a lot that could come from this. I think that if it, you know, someone suggested like a card game that like has like icebreakers or like get to know people cards or something, something like that. You know? And, and I just think that the community itself is very self-sustaining because a lot of people like just keep going and doing things together and like keep inviting more and people there’s a lot that goes into all of it, but also like there’s a lot that wasn’t a thing last month and then this, this month, you know what I mean?
So now it’s like, okay, there’s so many things going on at once that what’s next. Like the drew Barrymore show just happened. Like, I didn’t know about that a month ago. You know what I mean? So it’s like, I really don’t know what could come next, but I know that it’s something could crazily just happen tomorrow. So who knows, I really want to do like a podcast and like stuff like that where I can keep it, keep it going to conversations of either friendship, topics or something else. But yeah, I really just want to like, keep it going and keep the momentum momentum moving for sure. So,
And we asked you this question in our last chat you were saying like acting as your first love and you know, that’s something that that’s going to be your primary focus. Is that still the case? Or has that kind of changed now?
No, it’s, it’s still there. That was like my ride or die career path. I love it so much. And I would, I would die for it. I I think it’s one of those things that I will always be able to have. But you know, like I do like run a business now. So like, it’s like, it’s like this business though is based around myself. So it’s not like, are not based around myself, but like it is based off of me in a sense of like for everything else. So I’m able to also like do those things that I love, you know? So I think that that’s something that I, I really enjoy is being able to like still do the things that I love while doing this thing that I love and you know, my love, my friends, you know? So I think that’s really cool. Yeah.
So cool. You’re like building your own playbook, like obviously like anything new that you do, there’s no, like path, like you can’t be like, oh, let me see what the previous no more lonely friends did. And lemme just like, what, what your next steps like you’re so building it on your own. And I think that’s, what’s super cool to me because like I’m in this job, like, you know, I’m just like following this and I want to do something. The podcast for Anja NAI is like our first, like out of like the normal path of like, okay, well not everyone has a podcast, but you know, like, you know what I mean?
Is there you were the original podcast,
The first podcast?
I think that’s, that’s also like, kind of crazy is that when people are like, well, what’s next. I’m like, I don’t know.
Like, I don’t know. So yeah, it’s very, it’s very crazy to think about because I’m like, every step I take is something that I, I have to myself. Like I literally have to physically, if I don’t post the dates next week or the times or locations, no one will like, you know, like that’s something that’s so crazily it’s self-sustaining you have to do it. Like I have to push myself. And if I’m off for one week, it shows, you know what I mean? So it’s, it’s very difficult, but it’s also like, I laugh and I say, I think I told you this guys before, I didn’t want to work a nine to five. So I work 24 7. And so I like, you know, it’s, it’s stupid, but it’s so awesome. I love it so much. It’s very rewarding. Very rewarding. But yeah, it’s it’s, you know, it’s not the nine to five, I’m sitting at a desk it’s a 24 7 of being able to just freely have the creative freedom of, of doing what you want for your, for your company. So I think it’s a really, really rewarding feeling when I’m like, oh, I did this like, cool. I’m about to hit 50 K on no more lonely friends on Instagram. And I’m like, let’s go like this Instagram account, like three months ago. And I’m like, okay, cool.
This is amazing. Oh, I’m so proud of you. This is so cool. And I’m excited. I don’t want generic excited just to see how this momentum grows. Like whatever you do, you have so much passion behind it. And I’m just like stoked to see. I don’t know where it goes and keep falling. You,
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